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Wednesday, June 22, 2011

Francis Chan’s Erasing Hell: a response to Rob Bell’s Love Wins-Guest Blog By Randy Alcorn

Please consider this book revie3w from Randy Alcorn, which is, as usual, very well written.
From :http://www.epm.org/blog/2011/Jun/22/francis-chans-erasing-hell

By Randy Alcorn
Erasing HellI spoke about Mark Galli’s God Wins in the previous blog. (The ebook is now available on Amazon.) Today I’ll deal with Francis Chan’s Erasing Hell, another response to Rob Bell’s Love Wins. Then I’ll compare Chan’s book to Galli’s.

In Erasing Hell, Francis Chan speaks with compassion. You can almost feel him trembling over the issues at stake. He recognizes this debate is about God, His nature and His authority. I sensed both humility and prophetic power in this book.
I’ve talked with Francis personally and been at a few conferences where he’s spoken. It’s like watching a fire burn—you don’t know exactly what’s coming next. That same passion is on the pages of his book. Chan lays his heart on the table. It’s rare that a book mixes straight-from-the-heart talk with careful citation of Scripture. Erasing Hell does exactly that. I was not only informed, but moved.

What I read wasn’t the final edit, so some of the contents may have changed by the time the book’s released in early July. But these were some of the chapters:
Does Everyone Go to Heaven?Has Hell Changed? Or Have We?What Jesus Actually Said About Hell

 Chan’s book goes deep and detailed exactly when it needs to. It occasionally appeals to the original languages, e.g. the meaning of the Greek words Gehenna and aionos. It does so in order to deal with misleading statements about those terms in Love Wins.
The author explains that he asked his friend Preston Sprinkle to assist him in the research. That research and Francis Chan’s presentation are a dynamic combination.
Francis ChanChan is honest, admitting that when it comes to Matthew 25:46 “everything in me wants to interpret it differently, to make it say something that fits my own view of justice and morality.” Then he adds, “But from what I can tell, this is what the text is saying.”
One of the tests of whether we truly believe in the authority of God’s Word is whether or not we bow to it and accept it by faith even when it is painful or disturbing to do so. (What should it tell us if the Bible seems to always agree with us?) Chan models this approach to biblical interpretation. Will we pridefully believe what we want to, or humbly believe whatever God has told us?
C.S. LewisC. S. Lewis said of Hell, “There is no doctrine which I would more willingly remove from Christianity than this, if it lay in my power. But it has the full support of Scripture and, specially, of our Lord’s own words; it has always been held by Christendom; and it has the support of reason.” Dorothy Sayers, another broad-minded Christian, claimed, “We cannot repudiate Hell without altogether repudiating Christ.”

Too many Christians choose to believe whatever makes them feel good, while they ignore, deny, or reinterpret Scripture when it doesn’t fit culture’s current definition of love and tolerance. Hence, culture and the reader of Scripture become the authority, rather than Scripture itself. Faith becomes merely a collection of fleeting opinions, always subject to revision. That is something very different from historic, biblically grounded Christian faith.
Rather than apologize for God, Chan suggests we should apologize to God for presuming to be wiser and more loving than our Savior. Yet he does this while fully acknowledging the heart-rending difficulty of facing the existence of eternal Hell.
How does Erasing Hell compare to God Wins? I would describe Erasing Hell as passionate, biblically reasoned and pastoral. God Wins is historically rooted, theologically reasoned and journalistically precise. Someone who prefers thoughtfully presented theology and history might favor Galli’s book, while someone who enjoys careful exposition of key biblical passages and likes to connect with an author on an emotional level might prefer Chan’s.

I deeply appreciated both books; their content is sufficiently unique to justify reading both. I think it’s a God-thing that these small books are so different, yet complement each other with minimal redundancy. With their different backgrounds, personalities, life experiences, and writing styles, Mark Galli and Francis Chan each bring to the table things the other doesn’t. Reading them back to back, I found they produced a stereo effect that made the sound fuller than either on its own.
Martin LutherThese are both small books. Combined, they are less than 80,000 words, which would total one medium-sized book, still smaller than most theological books. If you are thinking a book can’t be that great if it’s just a critique, realize that both of these authors don’t just respond to Bell, they set forth a positive case for a central biblical doctrine. (Remember too that Luther’s classic On the Bondage of the Will, which he considered his best book, was actually a critical response to a book on free will written by Erasmus.)
I love that these authors don’t throw anyone under the bus for raising questions. But neither do they throw orthodox Christians throughout church history under the bus for believing the most difficult teachings of Jesus.
I was encouraged that both my sons-in-law clearly saw the danger of Bell’s book and rose to the occasion in their churches. One, a pastor, produced a podcast on Rob Bell’s book for his church and the other led a study of the book with men in his church. God Wins and Erasing Hell will be invaluable tools for pastors and lay leaders to guide believers in evaluating these doctrines.

Is it possible that God can be loving and that there is such a thing as eternal punishment? The Lord Jesus and Scripture, as understood by the great majority in the early church, the medieval church, the Reformation and the evangelical church, has always answered affirmatively.
Yes, Hell is dreadful, but it is not evil—it’s a place where evil gets punished. Something can be profoundly disturbing yet still be moral. Hell is moral because a good God must punish evil.
Much more is at stake here than the doctrine of Hell and the question of universalism. We don’t own the Christian faith. It isn’t ours to revise. God’s Word wasn’t meant to be given away piecemeal, leaving the next generation with leftovers. If we go on decade after decade parceling out fragments of the faith, what will be left? When we abandon truths Christians once died for, will we no longer have truths worth living for?

Both Chan and Galli recognize that the doctrine of hell isn’t a ballot measure, and God doesn’t give us a vote. There will be no end to dismantling doctrines if we consider it our calling to try to make God look good in our eyes and our culture’s. If his definition of good is different than ours, we dare not expect him to be the one who changes. The Almighty doesn’t need us to give him a facelift and airbrush his image. Our task is not to help people see God favorably but to see him accurately. God has the power, through the true gospel, to touch hearts and draw people to his love and grace while they fully affirm his holiness and justice. It’s not either/or, it’s both/and.
We are tempted to shrink God so he fits inside the borders of our minds. But those are small borders, and he is a big God. There’s great comfort in knowing a God who loves me but doesn’t need my counsel. The best part about Chan’s Erasing Hell and Galli’s God Wins is that as I read both these books, God became greater and I became less.
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The vague and tenuous hope that God is too kind to punish the ungodly has become a deadly opiate for the consciences of millions. It hushes their fears and allows them to practice all pleasant forms of iniquity while death draws every day nearer and the command to repent goes unheeded.   A. W. Tozer, The Knowledge of the Holy (New York: Harper & Row, Publishers, 1961), 95.

Tuesday, April 26, 2011

An Open Letter to Francis Chan


Dear Bro. Chan,

I don’t know ya, I’d like to call you Francis but I’ll wait till you tell me it’s OK. I don’t think you’ll mind, still…
I just am very frustrated with your criticisms of the church. I think you should be a little nicer to the body and bride of Christ.
This is not to say that there isn’t room for corrective messages. Certainly, we all know that we are to restore our fallen brothers and sisters. We all are to pull the plank out of our own eyes before taking the speck out of our neighbor's eye. But those things are very specific. Do you have a brother getting drunk? Correct him biblically. Do you have a sister engaging in gossip? Correct her biblically. But complaining about worship services? Where’s your chapter and verse? Sounds like a lot of personal opinion and preference from here.

To quote from the Christian Post online[1]:
“Church today has become predictable, says bestselling author and influential preacher Francis Chan. "You go to a building, someone gives you a bulletin, you sit in a chair, you sing a few songs, a guy delivers maybe a polished message, maybe not, someone sings a solo, you go home," Chan says in his latest "BASIC" video.” “The Crazy Love author is concerned about the big disconnect between what the church looks like today and what it looked like 2,000 years ago.”

Brother Chan, 2000 years ago they were dirt poor and met in the woods to keep from being persecuted. If that day comes again we’ll be in the same boat. We have brothers and sisters around the world facing these things and many of us pray for them. And about the modern worship service, your point is? Can’t we try to do things excellently for the Glory of God? Excuse me. (And I never said to anyone, “we’ll get you out in an hour.”)
Besides, this service is one small part of the week for the believer. Many fellowship with other believers on a daily basis. Many pray for their friends who are lost and look for opportunities to share Christ. Not all, of course not. Do you think this was not true 2000 years ago? Why did the scriptures have to remind them to give an answer to every man, or, owe no man anything but love. They needed reminders, too.

Chan: "When you read the New Testament, you see the Holy Spirit was supposed to change everything so that this gathering of people who call themselves Christians had this supernatural element about them," Chan explains in the video series, produced by Flannel. Through the power of the Holy Spirit, people began speaking in different languages, people were being healed, and believers had a supernatural love for one another. The fire that came down from heaven, that rush of wind, however, seems to have disappeared”, Chan points out.

Change everything? Did he change you? I’m sure he did. The Holy Spirit has changed me in a radical way! (Oooh, good idea for a book title.) I was lost, blind, crippled and dead, spiritually speaking, but now I am alive in Christ. I am putting to death my flesh, I am trying to take up my cross. And I’m not alone! Millions of Christians are doing that. And millions are giving their tithes and offerings to support Christian workers and hundreds of thousands of Missionaries around the world. [2]

Chan: "Do you really see this supernatural power at work when the believers gather together for what we call church?" he asks. "Isn't it the same Holy Spirit that's supposed to be available to us today? Why is it so different?"

No, I don’t see the Holy Spirit falling on us like the day of Pentecost or like on Gentile believers that Peter preached to. What can we do about it? This is where I think you have some good things to say. But give us hard, specific, concrete details about how to be the kind of yielded, cross-bearing disciples, and unified people that God can trust with the power of the Spirit. That would be good to hear, but I promise you, you cannot guarantee that the Holy Spirit will fall in America as he has in the past.
I hear from missionaries and Christians in unevangelized countries that God still does the miraculous. I am inclined to believe that. But they will agree that the greatest miracle is still the change of a hardened fallen heart, into a repentant heart of saving faith. This miracle still happens here in the USA.

The article continues, “Chan's frustrations with the church today are what inspired the "BASIC" series. He was successfully leading a mega-church in Simi Valley, Calif., when he began to question and rethink "how we do church." He began feeling uncomfortable with people driving long distances just to hear him speak every weekend and with church having become a once-a-week routine. After 16 years at Cornerstone Church, he let go of the reins in 2010 and traveled to Asia where he and his family spent time with persecuted Christians and orphans.”

Bro. Chan, your passion is admirable. Why is it though, I hear the snapping and cracking of passion Freezing into legalism. “Are you Radical for Christ? You have to prove it or you’re not. You have to walk away from your job. You have to go to a third world country. On and on and on.” Seriously?
Before I get excoriated, YES, I know, we do forsake all for Christ. And I have and will continue to by God's grace. But if obeying the Lord is to stay in the USA and stay at my job, don’t tell me to do otherwise. As much as I love Keith Green and the songs that helped shape my Christian childhood, Keith was wrong about one thing at least, Jesus did not "command us to go", as one of his songs said. Jesus commanded us to make disciples; here, there and everywhere.

Chan: "I heard one person say the church nowadays is neither super nor natural," he says. "Everything is predictable and everything is expected." "There's a truth to that," he admits. "I feel bad about it. Being around a church culture, even leading a gathering of believers, I've gotten pretty good at predicting what's going to happen in a church service. Was that the way it was supposed to happen?"

So, unpredictability is the sign of the Holy Spirit? I thought it was boldness to preach the gospel. Predictability isn’t necessarily a sign of God’s work but maybe its cultural.

Chan: "When Jesus said this power (of the Holy Spirit) would come upon you, it really did come upon them and they were powerful beings (Jesus' disciples)," Chan points out. "Why is it that in the church so many people are weak or defeated or we get so insecure because we look at ourselves rather than God? It doesn't make sense."

Ah, yes, here’s the voice of a pastor. Yes many are weak and defeated. That shouldn’t be so. But it was so long ago as well. Why was the book of Hebrews written? Because there were many believers about to lose heart and return to Judaism.

Chan: Though Christians believe in an almighty and all powerful God who places His spirit in believers, the response among His people today is: "Hi, welcome to church. Here's your bulletin. We'll get you out in an hour. Come back next week." "I mean, really? Is that all God intended for us?" Chan challenges.

No, that’s not all God has in store for us. You are right that is a tragic attitude. But once again, I contend that there are millions for whom that is not their experience.

Chan: While pondering whether Christians really believe the Holy Spirit exists today and can work powerfully, he asks one poignant question: "What would the church look like today if we really stopped taking control of it and let the Holy Spirit lead?""I believe this is exactly what the world needs to see."

Well Bro. Chan I think this statement belies your lack of faith. Really. Hard for me to say, because your faith is probably stronger than mine, but I think our Sovereign Lord is capable and is in fact in charge of His church. He moves his church where He will. He moves ministers to walk away from mega-churches, He moves college students to go to other countries, He moves young couples with children to leave jobs and go to Ethiopia. He leads US churches to worship in many different languages and in many different venues from ornate cathedrals to barely functional warehouses to living rooms to outdoor arenas. He leads African churches to worship in different ways, and Asians and eastern Europeans. God is in control and in charge. And yes, we all need to check our dedication level frequently. Are we forsaking all? Are we taking up our crosses? Are we denying ourselves? Some yes, most no. And please keep calling us to true discipleship. But don’t be slapping around Christ’s  Bride, He doesn’t like that I don't believe.


[1] http://www.christianpost.com/news/francis-chan-church-today-not-what-god-intended-50000/
[2] http:/christianityzperiodzaboutzperiodzcom/od/denominations/p/christiantodayzperiodzhtm and its link to Frontier Harvest Ministries. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Christian_missionaries_are_in_the_world#ixzz1KgVGHGlQ