Monday, July 18, 2011

Mr. Cain, What About Equal Rights For Muslims?

Amendment #1 To the Constitution of the United States: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Herman Cain said cities and peoples should be able to stop a mosque from being built in their neighborhoods and city limits. I like Herman Cain. He's bringing a breath of fresh air to the Party not unlike Rev. Jackson did to the Democrats a couple decades ago. But he missed this one.

What part of "make no law" and "Free exercise" is unclear to him? If an Imam or teacher in a mosque starts making political statements they'll lose their tax exempt status. If they begin to incite violence, they'll be arrested, if they try to get Sharia law voted in, it tii will be in violation of the constitution and be overturned. There are laws for these things. But when government stops the Muslims, Buhddists, Bahai's, Hindus, Sikhs, Mormons, or even satanists from building a place of worship or meeting or what ever, then the constitution is being violated and the question MUST arise, "Who's Next? Christians and Jews?"

Here's an excellent exerpt from Ed Stetzer's recent blog that says it well:*

The Qur'an, sura 2 ayat 256, says plainly, "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out 
clear from Error: whoever rejects Taghut (evil) and believes in Allah hath grasped the most 
trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things."

In his book All about Hinduism, Sri Swami Sivananda, a well-known proponent of yoga and Vedanta, 
writes, "Hinduism is a religion of freedom. It allows the widest freedom in matters of faith and 
worship. It allows absolute freedom to the human reason and heart with regard to questions such 
as the nature of God, soul, creation, form of worship, and goal of life. It does not force anybody
to accept particular dogmas or forms of worship."

No matter where we live or what religion we follow, we should not demand for ourselves that which we are unwilling to grant others--freedom from compulsion and from discrimination on the basis of creed.

...Emperor Ashoka was a great force in the early Buddhist missionary movement. He built large 
pillars inscribed with the core values of his faith. Among the inscriptions, we find the following: 
"One must not exalt one's creed discrediting all others, nor must one degrade these others 
without legitimate reasons. One must, on the contrary, render to other creeds the honor befitting them."

Jesus' closest followers had trouble understanding that force was forbidden in religion. One day 
he was walking toward Jerusalem and entered a Samaritan village. The people of Samaria 
did not respect the faith of the Jews. Jesus sent two of his closest followers, James and John, 
to go ahead of him and prepare for them to stay.
When the Samaritans refused to receive Jesus, James and John responded angrily, asking 
Jesus to call down fire from heaven to punish them. But Jesus said that the use of force was 
out of place for his message, and he rebuked them for making such a suggestion (Luke 9:54-55). 
Whenever Christians have tried to use force to advance the gospel, they have acted against the 
wishes of Jesus.
Not long ago, in Bangladesh, eight Christians were kidnapped by Buddhist extremists, who 
brought the group into their temple. The Christians had their heads shaved, were 
forced to wear Buddhist robes, were made to clean out the temple, and were forced to bow down 
to an idol. During their captivity, they were threatened with severe punishment. 
Their wives were forced to bow before an idol each day before being allowed to give the captives food.

Muslims in the United States have received threats by so-called followers of Christ. In central Nigeria, 
rivalry between Muslim and Christian villagers has frequently resulted in deadly attacks--
Muslim against Christian, Christian against Muslim--over the past decade.

In the spirit of mutual respect and tolerance, Muslims should be free to build a masjid 
where they live, and Christians should defend their religious freedom to do so. 
At the same time, Christians should be free to plant churches in places like 
Bhutan, the Maldives, Brunei, and Saudi Arabia. No matter where we live or 
what religion we follow, we should not demand for ourselves that which we are 
unwilling to grant others--freedom from compulsion, freedom from discrimination on 
the basis of creed, and freedom of conscience.*

 Come on Christians. Are we afraid the truth will be defeated? Are we afraid of Sharia? REALLY? News of the death of the US Constitution are greatly over-rated. It's not dead. God's not dead. And if the US falls and the constitution goes with it, GOD is STILL not dead.

 Now get ready to throw something at me but I have a news flash. When Jesus returns He won't need the Constitution, the Bill of Rights or the flag. They will all cease to be. We can say so long, it's been a great ride. We can say thanks to the founding Fathers if we want. But Frankly the governments of this world are not worthy to be compared to the Kingdom of God. And God will build His church (and Kingdom) and the gates of Hell, USA, Russia, Pakistan, Iran, and Lithuania shall not prevail against it.

To quote Mohammed: Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error.
Hey even a broken clock is right twice a day. 
To Quote the US Constitution: Congress shall make no law respecting establishment of religion or prohibiting the Free Exercise thereof;...
To Quote the Book of Revelation of Jesus Christ in Holy Scripture: They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony and they loved not their lives unto death."



  1. This issue is being framed as a religious liberty issue but it is not a religious issue! Rather a political issue attempting to be wrapped in the veneer of religion.The proverbial camels nose under the tent.
    I would challenge everyone to read the whole history of the Murfreesboro mosque issue. Read about how the individuals in Brentwood, TN were successful in preventing a mosque from being built there. Read about Geert Wilders at Cornerstone. Read about Steve Gill who emceed the Herman Cain event this past Thurday. Read about the crimes committed by the middle Tennessee Islamic community.

    Do you really belief that there is no compulsion in Islam.......As someone who grew up in Indonesia I can absolutely tell that is 100 percent false in both doctrine and practice. Not when you read the whole body of Islamic writings including other Quranic verses. That my friend is simply a lie!!!!

  2. "Framed" as a religious issue? ISLAM IS a religion. THere are places NOT to build mosques, like at ground zero perhaps, and murfreesboro perhaps. But there are also places not to build churches - ie. zoning laws.
    If their religion is one of hate, its their religion. Hate is not against the law. Killing yes, inciting violence, yes; using a religious institution to promote political candidates or positions, to some degree yes to that too.

  3. The issue as first brought up by Mr Cain was not a religious issue. But rather a political issue.
    please read this

  4. Not building a place for religious worship is what was discussed.

  5. Mr Clark,
    No that is false.....the point was not building a center for the propagation of political Islam. One that was/is being financed by the Muslim Brotherhood. The same Muslim brotherhood that is threatening Christians in Egypt now.

    I live here in Nashville, I have heard the arguments, I know the people, I listened to Steve Gills show, I went to the rally with Herman Cain on Thursday.
    Christians here in Tenn will not tolerate the lies of the devil re Islam. read this aricle by Vijay Kumar in the Tennessean today.

  6. Look, anybody can start a website, call themselves a PI and write their opinions. Who cares. Here's the deal we know there are jihadist muslims. There are also muslims who want to enjoy the american lifestyle and want to have a place of worship.
    I don't LIKE Islam, and I know that some of them may want to blow us all up.
    There may be a case for Murfreesboro, I don't know. Listening to Steve Whatever makes you an expert?
    My problem is Cain implying that government efforts can stop the free exercise of religion.
    If people are building terrorist cells thats a whole different thing.


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